tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post2105268113094006319..comments2024-03-09T18:57:10.942+13:00Comments on Liberty Scott: What post-modernism does to the mindLibertyscotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-32810528587269333232008-05-30T15:24:00.000+12:002008-05-30T15:24:00.000+12:00As someone who grew up on the fringes of socio-eco...As someone who grew up on the fringes of socio-economic groups and neighbourhoods that you describe, I don't believe that there is a culture that necessarily seek dependancy, but most feel as though thats the only option available to them. <BR/><BR/>They don't have access to the social support and networks that you and I take for granted, which help us with learning, employment oppurtunities, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-7720799553380474372008-05-30T15:23:00.000+12:002008-05-30T15:23:00.000+12:00We will always have people who are vulnerable. The...We will always have people who are vulnerable. The working poor and people on benefits struggle to make ends meet and that makes them vulnerable to all sorts of negativity. No one should die in this country because they can't afford their power bills. We must strive to provide really good access to health, social and education systems so that everyone gets a fair go.BigGirlsBlousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01226899372844593438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-19994579445097832212008-05-30T11:01:00.000+12:002008-05-30T11:01:00.000+12:00Not quite, I don't think most of NZers are people ...Not quite, I don't think most of NZers are people who seek dependency, who are lifelong irresponsible hedonists (I think most are during part of their youth but that's it), and most don't tolerate abuse. <BR/><BR/>It isn't about wealth at all, it is about culture, a substratum of malignancy that sadly corrodes those who are in such neighbourhoods. I don't damn those who are poorer, but I damn Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-28821784724856481722008-05-30T10:36:00.000+12:002008-05-30T10:36:00.000+12:00Thats a bit harsh. Your description characterises ...Thats a bit harsh. Your description characterises pretty much all of NZ society,and probably Western society in general, not just the underclass. <BR/><BR/>Yes it is a documented fact that many lower socio-economic neighbourhoods lack social capital (trust, cooperation, hope for better things etc) in comparison to more affluent ones, but that doesn't necessarily indicate that more affluent Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-38904594253709148252008-05-29T18:30:00.000+12:002008-05-29T18:30:00.000+12:00It is not so much being born there, but being surr...It is not so much being born there, but being surrounded by no-hopers who breed a culture of dependency, irresponsible hedonism, envy and tolerance for all sorts of abuse. It is the underclass culture that does it - draining hope and optimism from others.Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-43886007862175332452008-05-29T12:44:00.000+12:002008-05-29T12:44:00.000+12:00I have to admit there is a pervasive blame and vic...I have to admit there is a pervasive blame and victimhood culture in New Zealand, but its been extensively documented that being born into a relatively poor area consigns people to hae measurably poorer outcomes than the more affluent in a range of areas, health, education, crime, alcohol and drug abuse etc. <BR/><BR/>I agree that people need to take responsibility for their actions, but I wish Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com