tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post4378317854627123406..comments2024-03-09T18:57:10.942+13:00Comments on Liberty Scott: Kiwirail's asset revaluation - because Labour concealed the truth with accounting: UPDATEDLibertyscotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-30931229947065609652012-07-17T20:57:27.524+12:002012-07-17T20:57:27.524+12:00Anonymous 2.23AM: I think NZ's highway infrast...Anonymous 2.23AM: I think NZ's highway infrastructure is actually pretty good, and indeed since the mid 1980s road users have paid the full costs of maintenance and capital on the state highway network.<br /><br />Rail users only did during the brief commercial and privatisation periods, which both required the infrastructure to be run into the ground on lightly used lines. The argument Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-64458376456155387212012-07-17T20:55:18.247+12:002012-07-17T20:55:18.247+12:00Mike: You've read nothing, you've simply g...Mike: You've read nothing, you've simply gone on a rant. The fact you can even claim I believe in god is ludicrous. I'm an atheist and have written about it several times. <br /><br />Yes I know how much freight is carried on rail, and if you read the article and the other articles you'd note that I do think rail is viable in New Zealand. Let the Northland, Gisborne, Taneatua Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-31846066004928978822012-07-17T20:17:22.947+12:002012-07-17T20:17:22.947+12:00Anonymous 8.21pm: Yes, that's right, I am comp...Anonymous 8.21pm: Yes, that's right, I am completely clueless. In a blog it is possible to describe to the n'th degree every detail and nuance. Look I helped write the Cabinet paper that bought back the Auckland rail network from Tranz Rail and advised Ministers on Auckland rail, I think I know what I'm talking about. Yes Veolia is the operator, Kiwirail is a contracted supplier to Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-19035074592112199702012-07-17T14:23:11.177+12:002012-07-17T14:23:11.177+12:00I don't see what the issue is here. Both form...I don't see what the issue is here. Both forms of transport are required in New Zealand. NZ has modern road vehicles and modern rail vehicles. Neither have a decent infrastructure to use so either way to make things good NZ needs a decent rail permanent way and some decent highways - all of which will cost heaps of dollars and road or rail user charges will not cover the development costsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-46902231570840919732012-07-17T13:00:36.703+12:002012-07-17T13:00:36.703+12:00This Liberty Scott is very out of touch. Dose this...This Liberty Scott is very out of touch. Dose this person realy know how much freight is carried on rail ? ? Now why should all that freight end up on our highways to clogg up our roads more and put the public who use our highways more at risk from trucks. Why do we have to drive our cars and be stuck behind trucks on our roads and this person wants it worse. This Liberty Scott does not think of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-79500707991769744272012-07-17T08:21:49.543+12:002012-07-17T08:21:49.543+12:00"Once you remove roughly NZ$60 million in sub..."Once you remove roughly NZ$60 million in subsidies for operating Auckland and Wellington passenger rail services"<br /><br />You really don't have a clue, do you - KiwiRail doesn't even operate the Auckland network. They do however have an agreement with the Auckland operator (Veolia Transport) to supply some drivers along with locomotives. KiwiRail only operates the WellingtonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-37596983078155553992012-07-17T03:44:07.340+12:002012-07-17T03:44:07.340+12:00Anonymous: Give me research, prove me wrong.
Geo...Anonymous: Give me research, prove me wrong. <br /><br />Geoff: Where do you get the 30% from? The MoT Cost Allocation Model rejects this, as indeed does a cursory glance at heavy RUC revenue compared to total highway maintenance expenditure. Are you saying the CAM is wrong?<br /><br />The companies you list wouldn't be forced to go to road, if they are so competitive why can't they pay Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-6122853318130286622012-07-17T02:12:21.805+12:002012-07-17T02:12:21.805+12:00Trucks cause about 90% of vehicle-caused road dama...Trucks cause about 90% of vehicle-caused road damage, but only pay for about 30% of the cost of vehicle-caused road damage. The rest is paid for by private motorists.<br /><br />Private motorists therefore subsidize trucking companies, and trucking companies therefore have an unfair advantage over rail, which must pay for 100% of its maintenance.<br /><br />New Zealand's largest companies, Geoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06574080198282546684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-83104604314374642642012-07-17T01:32:40.097+12:002012-07-17T01:32:40.097+12:00Mr Scott hasn't changed mine over the years - ...Mr Scott hasn't changed mine over the years - all good libertarian stuff, ideal for discussion in a back bar with Aribica Beans compressed with boiling hot H2O, du lait (preferably steamed) added, can't see the wood for trees, largely based on assumptions made years ago not research.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-42922789151217580232012-07-02T19:58:51.772+12:002012-07-02T19:58:51.772+12:00Keep up the good work Scott, you changed my mind c...Keep up the good work Scott, you changed my mind completely on rail vs. roads and public transport etc.<br /><br />Let freedom reign and all that...Jeremy Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05819630707494648769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-83518984267244004292012-06-29T20:09:55.081+12:002012-06-29T20:09:55.081+12:00Jeremy: Quite!
Les: I disagree. It isn't a dis...Jeremy: Quite!<br />Les: I disagree. It isn't a distraction, because we are talking about well over 1 billion dollars taken from taxpayers (not just rail users and not proportionately rail users) for what is deemed to be an asset but which doesn't pay for itself.<br /><br />Land transport does not require rail, rail is good at certain specialised tasks, such as long haul high volume Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-30733547065541903842012-06-29T17:34:18.539+12:002012-06-29T17:34:18.539+12:00What's all the distraction obsessing about rev...What's all the distraction obsessing about revaluation and viability?<br /><br />Big picture: we all need good Land Transport. Land transport is road and rail. When does anyone give a monkey about the value or viability of roads? I see no reason to treat rail any more critically than roads. <br /><br />Roads are massively subsidised. Rail needs to be too. Without rail, our roads would be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15768887.post-5749690581949436092012-06-29T12:01:14.146+12:002012-06-29T12:01:14.146+12:00Watching the Greens and Labour complain about funn...Watching the Greens and Labour complain about funny figures trying to prepare "Kiwirail" for privatisation has been humourous.<br /><br />I guess they don't really understand that the value of a business is; the required capital, it's profitability and the vialibility of the ongoing nature of it's profitability.<br /><br />Just the people you in charge of 10s of billions of Jeremy Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05819630707494648769noreply@blogger.com