Wednesday, January 11, 2006

Iran - how long is nothing done?

Iran continues to metaphorically tell the West to “get fucked” once more by ripping off seals placed on equipment at several nuclear sites by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Iran has been sidestepping the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty for around 18 years, but the appeasers in Europe have kept blocking the desire by the US to impose sanctions through the UN Security Council. Bush was not wrong when he included Iran in his axis of evil - the current Islamic Republic is a cancerous proponent of terrorism which has only been beaten by the Taliban for its stone age barbarity based on religion.
Of course, many on the left will remain wilfully blind to this. Iran after all sent child soldiers in war against Iraq, has the state forcing women to dress as it says and bans any literature that it deems contrary to Islam, but that is nothing compared to the evil West. Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map, but that isn’t warmongering. Iran tortures prisoners as a matter of course, and has done so for many years (before and after the Islamic revolution), but lets ignore that. On top of that, the fact the US has been attempting to use multilateral mechanisms to deal with Iran is ignored – especially as they have failed.
There must be one more attempt to get the UN Security Council to threaten economic sanctions against Iran, of course if it withdraws from the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (as North Korea did), then the toothlessness of international diplomacy in the face of determined evil is exposed once more.
The Daily Telegraph reports that

“Teheran claims its nuclear programme is "peaceful", and it intends to carry out only "research and development" rather than full-scale enrichment. But it has stretched the definition so far that experts say there is no real distinction.”

Economic and diplomatic sanctions should be imposed until Iran demonstrates transparently that it is not pursuing nuclear weapons. If they do not work, either Iran withdraws from its threats of aggression against Israel and support for terrorism, or military action must be contemplated. For the leftwing advocates of peace - this is called SELF DEFENCE. It is TOO LATE to respond when Tel Aviv has been flattened by a nuclear missile - although you can be sure Israel will flatten Tehran in response, and rightfully so.
The new Iranian President has demonstrated that he puts the mental into fundamentalism, and is an enemy of civilisation and peace. He denies the Holocaust and he is instrumental in murdering those who disagree with Islam.

So what is likely to happen?

The noise about Iraq will mean Bush and Blair will probably not undertake any serious action against Iran, while Iran will continue to develop a nuclear capability. Once it has done so, it will either declare it explicitly or through a test, or it will allow such a capability to be used by the terrorist groups it funds, trains and supports.

The question for Israel is this. How long do you wait, before a country that has vowed to eliminate you acquires the means to do so? Even if the US and Europe go weak kneed, Israel will not – I expect it is considering military means to put back the Iranian nuclear project by years, much as it did for Iraq.

Any Israeli government that wasn’t would not be doing its duty – I would much rather an angry Iranian government and hoards of mindless drone Muslims protesting, than a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv.
Unfortunately, promising that any use by Iran of nuclear weapons will result in all out war against that country, is worthless to people in power who think the afterlife is more important than the here and now. However, it is all that there is. The evil thugs in Tehran must know that if they persist, they will be overthrown.


Bruce786 said...

Even though the below comments don't have much to do with your original article but related to it I would be interested in your views.

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING PASSAGES FROM THE BIBLE AS IT HAS IMPLICATIONS ON THE WAR AGAINST TERROR/ISLAM and the claim of Israel that god gave them the land. If the child is an infant than the Judeo-Christian version becomes null and void and we are wasting our time and resources i.e. we could save trillions of dollars and create a more peaceful world rather than fighting against Islam the religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all).

The COVENANT with Abraham and his DESCENDANTS is central to islam/chritianity/judaism.

Please note this is not a competition between faiths but an attempt to decipher fact from fiction.

And Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.
Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him.

At Genesis 22 Abraham had only 2 sons others came later. The Quran mentions that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed hence the reference in genesis 22:2 your only son can only mean someone has substituted Ishmael names for Isaac!!

NOT ROMAN NUMERALS (I, II, III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX,X) NB no concept of zero in roman numerals.

100 years old – 86 years old = 14 ADD 3 YEARS FOR ISSAC’S WEANING


Carefully read several times the above passage and then tell me the mental picture you get between the mother child interactions what is the age of the child. If the mental picture is that of a 17 year old child being carried on the shoulder of his mother, being physically placed in the bush, crying like a baby, mother having to give him water to drink, than the Islamic viewpoint is null and void.

I have shown the passage of Genesis 21 to my two elder children of good reading ages now and without influencing them asked them what mental picture they got about the age of Ishmael in that passage and they thought he was about 5 years old. I have also tried the same thing with my work colleagues some of whom are qualified with PhD’s and have the ENGLISH language as their mother tongue and they also said they thought Ishmael was 5 years or younger because some of them stated by themselves that there was no verbal interaction between mother and child. i.e. If Ishmael is not of talking age then he must be less than a year old.

GENESIS:21:14 - 21
So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-Sheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the child under one of the bushes. Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, “Let me not look upon the death of the child.” And as she sat over against him, the child lifted up his voice and wept. And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.” Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. And God was with the lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.


For background info on the future religion of mankind see the following websites: (MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE) (Quran and Science)

HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 37 verses 101 - 122

101. So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear.

102. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!"

103. So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah., and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice),

104. We called out to him "O Abraham!

105. "Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!" - thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

106. For this was obviously a trial-

107. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice:

108. And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times:

109. "Peace and salutation to Abraham!"

110. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

111. For he was one of our believing Servants.

112. And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a prophet,- one of the Righteous.

113. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong, to their own souls.

114. Again (of old) We bestowed Our favour on Moses and Aaron,

115. And We delivered them and their people from (their) Great Calamity;

116. And We helped them, so they overcame (their troubles);

117. And We gave them the Book which helps to make things clear;

118. And We guided them to the Straight Way.

119. And We left (this blessing) for them among generations (to come) in later times:

120. "Peace and salutation to Moses and Aaron!"

121. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

122. For they were two of our believing Servants.


Therefore the claim that god gave the land to Israel is destroyed without the need of any WMD’s.

Seamonkey Madness said...

Brucie: yawn...
Stop with the religious claptrap. I'm with LibertyScott on that: "belief in religion is a form of madness". It seems its true, religion leads the blind as you obviously didn't read the post below this one.


The chances of the allies invading yet another middle-eastern country are probably high, but it will be some time before they do so. The UN will try and exhaust every diplomatic and economic (yeah, good luck with Iran being the 4th largest oil-producer) avenue available. Bush may even agree with them, wanting to avoid the shitstorm that followed the whole "they've got WMDs" excuse and bypassing them and invading Afghanistan and Iraq.

Because of all this humming and haaing, its likely that Iran and its mad as a hatter president will have in that time developed and tested their new nuclear arsenal. (I'm finding an amusing analogy between this situation and the 'nouveau riches' yob/footballer wife manifestation over here - got lots money, but just go and blow it on something "fashionable" like Burberry)
And when that happens I really do ponder how Bush reacts to the hole - nay, abyss - he has dug for himself due to his misguided sandpit adventures and how many more lives, innocent or otherwise, have to be snuffed out in this game of insanity.


- Seamonkey Madness
AKITUK (Another Kiwi In The UK)